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	<title>Comments on: Special guest: Dr. Russell Hopfenberg on food supply, carrying capacity, and population</title>
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		<title>By: Dr Russell Hopfenberg: Overpopulation and Biodiversity loss &#124; Peak Energy &#38; Resources, Climate Change, and the Preservation of Knowledge</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 18:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] 3 May 2007. Special guest: Dr. Russell Hopfenberg on food supply, carrying capacity, and population. [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Birth Control won&#8217;t stop population growth &#124; Peak Energy &#38; Resources, Climate Change, and the Preservation of Knowledge</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Birth Control won&#8217;t stop population growth &#124; Peak Energy &#38; Resources, Climate Change, and the Preservation of Knowledge]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 18:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] 3 May 2007. Special guest: Dr. Russell Hopfenberg on food supply, carrying capacity, and population. [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: From Gary Peters, A Little Perspective on Human Numbers and Environmental Problems &#171; La Marguerite</title>
		<link>http://growthmadness.org/2007/05/03/special-guest-dr-russell-hopfenberg-on-food-supply-carrying-capacity-and-population/#comment-10610</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[From Gary Peters, A Little Perspective on Human Numbers and Environmental Problems &#171; La Marguerite]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] years, we suddenly, in less than two centuries, have increased our numbers more than six-fold. As Russell Hopfenberg (among others) has noted, &#8220;Increases in the population of the human species, like increases [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] years, we suddenly, in less than two centuries, have increased our numbers more than six-fold. As Russell Hopfenberg (among others) has noted, &#8220;Increases in the population of the human species, like increases [...]</p>
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		<title>By: is world population determined by food supply? &#171; Trinifar</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[is world population determined by food supply? &#171; Trinifar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 03:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] 6, 2007 by Trinifar    Back in May, Growth is Madness! hosted a quest post by Dr. Russell Hopfenberg, a consulting faculty member at Duke University, &#8220;to discuss his [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Russell Hopfenberg on food supply, carrying capacity, and population: follow-up responses to readers&#8217; comments &#171; Growth is Madness!</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 22:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] responses to those initial comments, and readers&#8217; subsequent questions and comments, are here. If you&#8217;re not familiar with the ideas involved and the prior discussion here, those links [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Steven Earl Salmony</title>
		<link>http://growthmadness.org/2007/05/03/special-guest-dr-russell-hopfenberg-on-food-supply-carrying-capacity-and-population/#comment-5739</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steven Earl Salmony]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 14:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Russell Hopfenberg,

We hope things go well for you and that favorable circumstances permit you to respond with a second round of comments to the outstanding questions posted in this blog.  

Thanks,

Steve]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Russell Hopfenberg,</p>
<p>We hope things go well for you and that favorable circumstances permit you to respond with a second round of comments to the outstanding questions posted in this blog.  </p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: stevenearlsalmony</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[stevenearlsalmony]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 18:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aside from Hopfenberg, Pimentel and  Bartlett, one new top-rank scientist is choosing 2007 to speak out about the challenges posed to humanity by the unbridled growth of absolute global human population numbers.  While many population scientists and demograhphers have elected to remain mute, one climate change scientist, CHRIS RAPLEY, is beginning to  articulate  the concerns of many other scientists from a range of  disciplines.

I would like to support the efforts of Dr. Rapley, and Dr. Hans Joachim Schellnhuber,  through a plea for the immediate consideration of unexpected scientific evidence regarding human population dynamics and human population numbers to be examined by MEMBERS of  the DISCIPLINARY ASSOCIATIONS NETWORK  FOR SUSTAINABILITY, the FOUNDATION FOR THE FUTURE, the FACING THE FUTURE organization, the AAAS FORUM FOR INNOVATION AND SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT, the GLOBAL MARSHALL PLAN and the CLUB OF ROME.

Thanks,

Steve]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aside from Hopfenberg, Pimentel and  Bartlett, one new top-rank scientist is choosing 2007 to speak out about the challenges posed to humanity by the unbridled growth of absolute global human population numbers.  While many population scientists and demograhphers have elected to remain mute, one climate change scientist, CHRIS RAPLEY, is beginning to  articulate  the concerns of many other scientists from a range of  disciplines.</p>
<p>I would like to support the efforts of Dr. Rapley, and Dr. Hans Joachim Schellnhuber,  through a plea for the immediate consideration of unexpected scientific evidence regarding human population dynamics and human population numbers to be examined by MEMBERS of  the DISCIPLINARY ASSOCIATIONS NETWORK  FOR SUSTAINABILITY, the FOUNDATION FOR THE FUTURE, the FACING THE FUTURE organization, the AAAS FORUM FOR INNOVATION AND SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT, the GLOBAL MARSHALL PLAN and the CLUB OF ROME.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: stevenearlsalmony</title>
		<link>http://growthmadness.org/2007/05/03/special-guest-dr-russell-hopfenberg-on-food-supply-carrying-capacity-and-population/#comment-4094</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[stevenearlsalmony]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 20:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Human Population Health Statistics, with explanatory power,

http://www.okananter.com/wordpress/?p=21

Always,

Steve]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Human Population Health Statistics, with explanatory power,</p>
<p><a href="http://www.okananter.com/wordpress/?p=21" rel="nofollow">http://www.okananter.com/wordpress/?p=21</a></p>
<p>Always,</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Magne Karlsen</title>
		<link>http://growthmadness.org/2007/05/03/special-guest-dr-russell-hopfenberg-on-food-supply-carrying-capacity-and-population/#comment-3465</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Magne Karlsen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 16:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve, 

You&#039;re a poet. :D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, </p>
<p>You&#8217;re a poet. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: stevenearlsalmony</title>
		<link>http://growthmadness.org/2007/05/03/special-guest-dr-russell-hopfenberg-on-food-supply-carrying-capacity-and-population/#comment-3431</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[stevenearlsalmony]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 13:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Magne,

Your eyes are working just as intended. 
You are of sound mind.
You can think for yourself.
You have demonstrated an adequate capacity for experience.
You are not a complete idiot.
You are going sane.

Please do not lose confidence  in yourself, because your eyes are showing you some new and apparently unforeseen things about the human species and the world we inhabit.....things many brothers and sisters among us, the &#039;many too many&#039; who are embedded in the predominant culture, are not yet seeing.

Imagine for a moment that you have awakened early this very morning just before dawn.  Recall the quality of darkness just before dawn.   You cannot see anything.  Almost everyone else you know or have ever known is not stirring; they remain asleep.  

With the coming of dawn the world begins to become visible.  You see things you have seen every day of your life.  But on this morning, for the first time, everything about the familiar landscape is somehow unexpectedly different.  Once those who are asleep awaken, they will also see that which is completely unanticipated in the unchanged landscape.  

But, at least until this good morning, they remain asleep.

Sincerely,

Steve]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Magne,</p>
<p>Your eyes are working just as intended.<br />
You are of sound mind.<br />
You can think for yourself.<br />
You have demonstrated an adequate capacity for experience.<br />
You are not a complete idiot.<br />
You are going sane.</p>
<p>Please do not lose confidence  in yourself, because your eyes are showing you some new and apparently unforeseen things about the human species and the world we inhabit&#8230;..things many brothers and sisters among us, the &#8216;many too many&#8217; who are embedded in the predominant culture, are not yet seeing.</p>
<p>Imagine for a moment that you have awakened early this very morning just before dawn.  Recall the quality of darkness just before dawn.   You cannot see anything.  Almost everyone else you know or have ever known is not stirring; they remain asleep.  </p>
<p>With the coming of dawn the world begins to become visible.  You see things you have seen every day of your life.  But on this morning, for the first time, everything about the familiar landscape is somehow unexpectedly different.  Once those who are asleep awaken, they will also see that which is completely unanticipated in the unchanged landscape.  </p>
<p>But, at least until this good morning, they remain asleep.</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Magne Karlsen</title>
		<link>http://growthmadness.org/2007/05/03/special-guest-dr-russell-hopfenberg-on-food-supply-carrying-capacity-and-population/#comment-3375</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Magne Karlsen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve, 

Consider this. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Missile_Defense

While I am considering writing a guest column for GIM, on the need for an international / global peace movement; one which should be associated with the environmental movement, I can&#039;t help thinking that, again, I am nothing but a useless utopist who&#039;s guided by equally useless humanitarian ideals. 

The fact is: the people and institutions who are in power on this planet do not worry about any such ideals. According to their way of thinking, it is only natural that the Earth should be fixed with plenty of Satelite-and-Computer-based Missile Defence Systems - one for each of the ultra-modern superpowers of this world: China, Russia, USA, and (God forbid) Saudi Arabia or Iran. You know what I mean? 

Our current world leaders are all geared at a Serious Space Age, in which Stephen Hawking&#039;s version of the future of mankind is the guiding principle. 

- -- 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/uk/2000/newsmakers/1609172.stm

Quote: - Hawking&#039;s prediction for the future of mankind, which has provoked criticism in scientific circles, seems itself to have been the product of &quot;bad dreams.&quot; 

&quot;I don&#039;t think the human race will survive the next thousand years unless we spread into space&quot; he recently told a journalist. &quot;There are too many accidents that can befall life on a single planet.&quot; 

- -- 

So you see: it is easy to keep dreaming on. Like dreaming on about a future organisation of this planet; one that is based on key concepts like peace and understanding, co-operation and care, love and ... and ... you know: respect and ... see: I feel like a complete idiot here ... am I sane? ... 

*a whole lot of sarcastic comments expected* 

Love?! :(]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, </p>
<p>Consider this. </p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Missile_Defense" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Missile_Defense</a></p>
<p>While I am considering writing a guest column for GIM, on the need for an international / global peace movement; one which should be associated with the environmental movement, I can&#8217;t help thinking that, again, I am nothing but a useless utopist who&#8217;s guided by equally useless humanitarian ideals. </p>
<p>The fact is: the people and institutions who are in power on this planet do not worry about any such ideals. According to their way of thinking, it is only natural that the Earth should be fixed with plenty of Satelite-and-Computer-based Missile Defence Systems &#8211; one for each of the ultra-modern superpowers of this world: China, Russia, USA, and (God forbid) Saudi Arabia or Iran. You know what I mean? </p>
<p>Our current world leaders are all geared at a Serious Space Age, in which Stephen Hawking&#8217;s version of the future of mankind is the guiding principle. </p>
<p>- &#8212; </p>
<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/uk/2000/newsmakers/1609172.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/uk/2000/newsmakers/1609172.stm</a></p>
<p>Quote: &#8211; Hawking&#8217;s prediction for the future of mankind, which has provoked criticism in scientific circles, seems itself to have been the product of &#8220;bad dreams.&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t think the human race will survive the next thousand years unless we spread into space&#8221; he recently told a journalist. &#8220;There are too many accidents that can befall life on a single planet.&#8221; </p>
<p>- &#8212; </p>
<p>So you see: it is easy to keep dreaming on. Like dreaming on about a future organisation of this planet; one that is based on key concepts like peace and understanding, co-operation and care, love and &#8230; and &#8230; you know: respect and &#8230; see: I feel like a complete idiot here &#8230; am I sane? &#8230; </p>
<p>*a whole lot of sarcastic comments expected* </p>
<p>Love?! <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Steven Earl Salmony</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steven Earl Salmony]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 01:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear John and Magne,

Perhaps the time is drawing nigh for some serious discussion of what we are to do about the human predicament that is presented to humanity by the unbridled growth of the human species and its large-scale business enterprises engulfing the Earth in Century XXI.  

Just as a way of beginning to take hold of this distinctly human predicament, I would like to present a scenario to which I welcome responses.  It seems that one way to start such a &quot;movement&quot; from problem identification to solutions could be by considering how to address a situation like the one that follows.


Let us consider for a moment that  the future of our children is being mortgaged and ultimately put at risk by a relatively small group of powerbrokers who manage the unbridled global political economy as a colossal pyramid scheme.  While they recklessly go about their potentially pernicious business,  many too many of our elected and appointed leaders maintain their silence about the challenges unrestrained  global human production, consumption and propagation  present to humanity,  even though a calamity  is already visible in the offing.  By posing as people who are blind and mute, the deafening silence of these bought-and-paid-for leaders serves to fill their pockets and pockets of their benefactors and minions with that which is golden…. for now….. and for a while longer, I suppose.

Could these promoters of endless wealth accumulation and ever expanding business enterprise be adamantly pursuing an unsustainable course to the future, one that no sensible and reasonable human being would ever choose to take?

Would you recommend that we &quot;stay the course&quot; by promoting more business as usual,  human overgrowth activities or would you suggest a change in course that eschews unchecked economic globalization?

If change of some sort appears to loom on the horizon, then what changes in course would you recommend?

Sincerely,

Steve]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear John and Magne,</p>
<p>Perhaps the time is drawing nigh for some serious discussion of what we are to do about the human predicament that is presented to humanity by the unbridled growth of the human species and its large-scale business enterprises engulfing the Earth in Century XXI.  </p>
<p>Just as a way of beginning to take hold of this distinctly human predicament, I would like to present a scenario to which I welcome responses.  It seems that one way to start such a &#8220;movement&#8221; from problem identification to solutions could be by considering how to address a situation like the one that follows.</p>
<p>Let us consider for a moment that  the future of our children is being mortgaged and ultimately put at risk by a relatively small group of powerbrokers who manage the unbridled global political economy as a colossal pyramid scheme.  While they recklessly go about their potentially pernicious business,  many too many of our elected and appointed leaders maintain their silence about the challenges unrestrained  global human production, consumption and propagation  present to humanity,  even though a calamity  is already visible in the offing.  By posing as people who are blind and mute, the deafening silence of these bought-and-paid-for leaders serves to fill their pockets and pockets of their benefactors and minions with that which is golden…. for now….. and for a while longer, I suppose.</p>
<p>Could these promoters of endless wealth accumulation and ever expanding business enterprise be adamantly pursuing an unsustainable course to the future, one that no sensible and reasonable human being would ever choose to take?</p>
<p>Would you recommend that we &#8220;stay the course&#8221; by promoting more business as usual,  human overgrowth activities or would you suggest a change in course that eschews unchecked economic globalization?</p>
<p>If change of some sort appears to loom on the horizon, then what changes in course would you recommend?</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: John Feeney</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Feeney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 04:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Magne,
You make a good point -- if I get what you&#039;re saying; yes, I suppose there does need to be some talk of solutions as we work on awareness. There needs to be some groundwork laid for effective, humane and just solutions so that once awareness is sufficient to enable solutions, those sorts will be at the forefront. Yes, okay, there should be some simultaneous talk of solutions.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Magne,<br />
You make a good point &#8212; if I get what you&#8217;re saying; yes, I suppose there does need to be some talk of solutions as we work on awareness. There needs to be some groundwork laid for effective, humane and just solutions so that once awareness is sufficient to enable solutions, those sorts will be at the forefront. Yes, okay, there should be some simultaneous talk of solutions.</p>
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		<title>By: stevenearlsalmony</title>
		<link>http://growthmadness.org/2007/05/03/special-guest-dr-russell-hopfenberg-on-food-supply-carrying-capacity-and-population/#comment-3305</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[stevenearlsalmony]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 18:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Magne,

Two terrific comments.  Thanks.

This is only a guess; but I believe you might agree with the two following statements.

1.   War over resources, natural resource dissipation, grab a beer, order a pizza, don&#039;t worry, don&#039;t stop laughing and &#039;party on&#039; belong together.  Virtually everywhere  in our predominant global culture we see that these behaviors coalesce in the course of day to day living.

2.   Peace,  biodiversity enhancement, environmental protection,  natural resource  preservation, smiling, thinking of the ill fate of others, caring for  other people, for life as we know it and for the maintenance of the integrity of Earth are also behaviors that somehow belong together.  Unfortunately,  we see these behaviors insufficiently expressed in the human world in which we live today. 

Who knows, perhaps METANOIA is in the offing. 

Always,

Steve]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Magne,</p>
<p>Two terrific comments.  Thanks.</p>
<p>This is only a guess; but I believe you might agree with the two following statements.</p>
<p>1.   War over resources, natural resource dissipation, grab a beer, order a pizza, don&#8217;t worry, don&#8217;t stop laughing and &#8216;party on&#8217; belong together.  Virtually everywhere  in our predominant global culture we see that these behaviors coalesce in the course of day to day living.</p>
<p>2.   Peace,  biodiversity enhancement, environmental protection,  natural resource  preservation, smiling, thinking of the ill fate of others, caring for  other people, for life as we know it and for the maintenance of the integrity of Earth are also behaviors that somehow belong together.  Unfortunately,  we see these behaviors insufficiently expressed in the human world in which we live today. </p>
<p>Who knows, perhaps METANOIA is in the offing. </p>
<p>Always,</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Magne Karlsen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Magne Karlsen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 14:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Business As Usual is another thing. Grab a beer, order a pizza, don&#039;t worry, be happy, go lucky, keep smiling, don&#039;t stop laughing, and party on. Don&#039;t even think about the ill fate of others; it&#039;s their own business, and not yours.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Business As Usual is another thing. Grab a beer, order a pizza, don&#8217;t worry, be happy, go lucky, keep smiling, don&#8217;t stop laughing, and party on. Don&#8217;t even think about the ill fate of others; it&#8217;s their own business, and not yours.</p>
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