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		<title>By: immigration and US population growth &#171; Trinifar</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 02:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] John Feeney has noted, environmental writers and women&#8217;s rights advocates tend to avoid the population problem even though it&#8217;s [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: IPCC and population growth &#171; Blå skärm-Crashing system</title>
		<link>http://growthmadness.org/2007/09/13/when-environmental-writers-are-part-of-the-problem/#comment-7920</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 16:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] recently commented on Growth is Madness! that the IPCC was not addressing the population growth problem, although it [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: John Feeney</title>
		<link>http://growthmadness.org/2007/09/13/when-environmental-writers-are-part-of-the-problem/#comment-7546</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Feeney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 04:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Julien,

You raise an important issue. I can only speculate about the IPCC&#039;s silence on population, or for that matter the silence of other scientific groups and individuals. 

The fact is that a fair number of respected groups and scientists have pointed to population as a key driver of ecological decline, including increasing CO2 emissions (just as I=PAT makes clear). But they tend only to do so too infrequently and not very loudly. Sometimes, as in the IPCC report, they don&#039;t do so at all. 

A Bartlett has been quite critical of this:

http://growthmadness.org/2007/01/02/al-bartlett-exposes-the-silent-lie/

There seem to be a few possible reasons for it. One is the perceived magnitude of the problem - what Ken Smail calls &lt;a href=&quot;http://growthmadness.org/2007/07/13/global-population-reduction-confronting-the-inevitable/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;“scale paralysis.&quot;&lt;/a&gt;

Then there&#039;s the fear of criticism from those opposed to addressing population. This seems to be the cause of some environmentalists&#039; shying away from the issue. Bringing up population can trigger erroneous accusations of racism (as you can see in a comment just above), fallacious arguments that the problems is purely per capita consumption, and silly insistence that population growth is good because it means more minds to innovate solutions to the problems it&#039;s created. :-/ 

I&#039;m thankful there are scientists out there today such as Chris Rapley who are speaking out about population. The notion that we can ignore it and expect to achieve sustainability will go down as one of the more destructive fallacies of our time.

I&#039;d like to hear from scientists such as those behind the IPCC report on their reasons for staying mum on it. For now, I can only guess.

By the way, here are some statements and reports a number of credible scientific and similar groups &lt;em&gt;have&lt;/em&gt; published:

http://growthmadness.org/2007/05/23/powerful-population-links/

Hey, nice blog, by the way. I&#039;ll be looking it over as I&#039;m able!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Julien,</p>
<p>You raise an important issue. I can only speculate about the IPCC&#8217;s silence on population, or for that matter the silence of other scientific groups and individuals. </p>
<p>The fact is that a fair number of respected groups and scientists have pointed to population as a key driver of ecological decline, including increasing CO2 emissions (just as I=PAT makes clear). But they tend only to do so too infrequently and not very loudly. Sometimes, as in the IPCC report, they don&#8217;t do so at all. </p>
<p>A Bartlett has been quite critical of this:</p>
<p><a href="http://growthmadness.org/2007/01/02/al-bartlett-exposes-the-silent-lie/" rel="nofollow">http://growthmadness.org/2007/01/02/al-bartlett-exposes-the-silent-lie/</a></p>
<p>There seem to be a few possible reasons for it. One is the perceived magnitude of the problem &#8211; what Ken Smail calls <a href="http://growthmadness.org/2007/07/13/global-population-reduction-confronting-the-inevitable/" rel="nofollow">“scale paralysis.&#8221;</a></p>
<p>Then there&#8217;s the fear of criticism from those opposed to addressing population. This seems to be the cause of some environmentalists&#8217; shying away from the issue. Bringing up population can trigger erroneous accusations of racism (as you can see in a comment just above), fallacious arguments that the problems is purely per capita consumption, and silly insistence that population growth is good because it means more minds to innovate solutions to the problems it&#8217;s created. :-/ </p>
<p>I&#8217;m thankful there are scientists out there today such as Chris Rapley who are speaking out about population. The notion that we can ignore it and expect to achieve sustainability will go down as one of the more destructive fallacies of our time.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to hear from scientists such as those behind the IPCC report on their reasons for staying mum on it. For now, I can only guess.</p>
<p>By the way, here are some statements and reports a number of credible scientific and similar groups <em>have</em> published:</p>
<p><a href="http://growthmadness.org/2007/05/23/powerful-population-links/" rel="nofollow">http://growthmadness.org/2007/05/23/powerful-population-links/</a></p>
<p>Hey, nice blog, by the way. I&#8217;ll be looking it over as I&#8217;m able!</p>
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		<title>By: julienx2k2</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[julienx2k2]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 20:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi all,

First of all, excellent article. Now comes my point.

As a matter of fact, I am wondering why the IPCC working group III, whose goal is to address climate change mitigation, does not state anything about how to take care of population growth as a way to limit our impact on the environment. I will use the equation I=PAT as a basis for my argumentation. I is our environmental Impact, being here CO2 emissions.

As I have been (quickly) through this report, I have seen how we could change our consumption patterns (addressing A), or improve our technology by shifting towards renewable energy sources (factor T).

But nothing is said about how to slow down population growth; although the group accepts it as a factor responsible for increasing CO2 emissions (quoting from the summary for policymakers: &quot;the effect on global emissions of the decrease in global energy intensity (-33%) during 1970 to 2004 has been smaller than the combined effect of global per capita income growth (77%) and global population growth (69%); both drivers of increasing energy-related CO2 emissions&quot;).

The problem is that this report focuses merely on the existing and foreseen technological solutions that could help us, and how to politically and financially support their introduction into the market. But nothing is said about the third cause of increase of CO2 emissions.

When such a scientific panel, considered to be the most qualified one on the issue of climate change, does not address population growth, I am not surprised that environmental writers do not speak out and write about it.
I am interested in knowing what you think about this fact.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all,</p>
<p>First of all, excellent article. Now comes my point.</p>
<p>As a matter of fact, I am wondering why the IPCC working group III, whose goal is to address climate change mitigation, does not state anything about how to take care of population growth as a way to limit our impact on the environment. I will use the equation I=PAT as a basis for my argumentation. I is our environmental Impact, being here CO2 emissions.</p>
<p>As I have been (quickly) through this report, I have seen how we could change our consumption patterns (addressing A), or improve our technology by shifting towards renewable energy sources (factor T).</p>
<p>But nothing is said about how to slow down population growth; although the group accepts it as a factor responsible for increasing CO2 emissions (quoting from the summary for policymakers: &#8220;the effect on global emissions of the decrease in global energy intensity (-33%) during 1970 to 2004 has been smaller than the combined effect of global per capita income growth (77%) and global population growth (69%); both drivers of increasing energy-related CO2 emissions&#8221;).</p>
<p>The problem is that this report focuses merely on the existing and foreseen technological solutions that could help us, and how to politically and financially support their introduction into the market. But nothing is said about the third cause of increase of CO2 emissions.</p>
<p>When such a scientific panel, considered to be the most qualified one on the issue of climate change, does not address population growth, I am not surprised that environmental writers do not speak out and write about it.<br />
I am interested in knowing what you think about this fact.</p>
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		<title>By: John Feeney</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Feeney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 05:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[burritoboy,

Your last line contradicts your first. That economies in developing countries are growing extremely fast means their per capita consumption is growing extremely fast.

China&#039;s total consumption is now &lt;em&gt;greater&lt;/em&gt; than the US&#039;s by many measures due to sheer numbers. And per capita consumption is now skyrocketing. India&#039;s economy is growing rapidly and its population will surpass that of China before long. 

Therefore the equation, (average per capita consumption rate) * (population size), puts such parts of the world on a collision course with disaster, just as we in the developed countries are on that course. That alone justifies a focus on &lt;em&gt;both&lt;/em&gt; population and per capita consumption in &lt;em&gt;both&lt;/em&gt; places. 

Population in &lt;em&gt;both&lt;/em&gt; the first and third worlds are far too high. We are far into overshoot of the earth&#039;s carrying capacity for humans. Even if we all consumed energy at rates similar to the average citizen of India, that would remain the case. Populations almost everywhere, including the US and Europe have to come way, way &lt;em&gt;down&lt;/em&gt;. (Mere stabilization is insufficient by a long shot.) A colossal number of lives are at stake and may be lost regardless. But a huge number may be spared if we tackle population with our eyes open.

Sorry, but &lt;strong&gt;the racist action is to dismiss the lives of billions of humans in the third world&lt;/strong&gt; because we are unwilling to acknowledge the earth&#039;s limits and the fact that we&#039;ve far overshot them in nearly every country, and that the global population will inevitably come down drastically whether at the hand of nature or through our own voluntary, planned actions. We have a choice.

Note too that simply reducing energy consumption, even if we were able to succeed beyond our wildest dreams, either through lifestyle and societal changes or techo-fixes, is not enough to solve our ecological problems. Even if we &quot;solved&quot; energy and used only abundant, renewable, clean energy, our far-too-large global population would still be consuming too much water, land, and other non-energy resources to be sustainable or to allow life for the rest of the inhabitants of the planet.

There is no time, by the way, to focus on one problem &quot;first.&quot; We&#039;re talking here about a few decades at best. If we&#039;re to have any hope of softening the landing we must deal with the whole package right now.

Here are some relevant links:

http://growthmadness.org/2007/02/09/an-unholy-matrimony/

http://growthmadness.org/2007/02/16/population-and-consumption-both-major-players/

http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_2274.shtml

http://growthmadness.wordpress.com/2007/07/13/global-population-reduction-confronting-the-inevitable/

http://www.paulchefurka.ca/Population.html

http://www.press.uillinois.edu/pre95/0-252-00818-9.html

I think those might shed some light. Any one should dispossess you of one or another aspect of the argument you&#039;ve adopted (The Catton book should take care of the whole package.) which is popular among progressives with whom I otherwise sympathize, but who have failed, as badly as those on the right, to think through sufficiently the ecological challenges confronting us today.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>burritoboy,</p>
<p>Your last line contradicts your first. That economies in developing countries are growing extremely fast means their per capita consumption is growing extremely fast.</p>
<p>China&#8217;s total consumption is now <em>greater</em> than the US&#8217;s by many measures due to sheer numbers. And per capita consumption is now skyrocketing. India&#8217;s economy is growing rapidly and its population will surpass that of China before long. </p>
<p>Therefore the equation, (average per capita consumption rate) * (population size), puts such parts of the world on a collision course with disaster, just as we in the developed countries are on that course. That alone justifies a focus on <em>both</em> population and per capita consumption in <em>both</em> places. </p>
<p>Population in <em>both</em> the first and third worlds are far too high. We are far into overshoot of the earth&#8217;s carrying capacity for humans. Even if we all consumed energy at rates similar to the average citizen of India, that would remain the case. Populations almost everywhere, including the US and Europe have to come way, way <em>down</em>. (Mere stabilization is insufficient by a long shot.) A colossal number of lives are at stake and may be lost regardless. But a huge number may be spared if we tackle population with our eyes open.</p>
<p>Sorry, but <strong>the racist action is to dismiss the lives of billions of humans in the third world</strong> because we are unwilling to acknowledge the earth&#8217;s limits and the fact that we&#8217;ve far overshot them in nearly every country, and that the global population will inevitably come down drastically whether at the hand of nature or through our own voluntary, planned actions. We have a choice.</p>
<p>Note too that simply reducing energy consumption, even if we were able to succeed beyond our wildest dreams, either through lifestyle and societal changes or techo-fixes, is not enough to solve our ecological problems. Even if we &#8220;solved&#8221; energy and used only abundant, renewable, clean energy, our far-too-large global population would still be consuming too much water, land, and other non-energy resources to be sustainable or to allow life for the rest of the inhabitants of the planet.</p>
<p>There is no time, by the way, to focus on one problem &#8220;first.&#8221; We&#8217;re talking here about a few decades at best. If we&#8217;re to have any hope of softening the landing we must deal with the whole package right now.</p>
<p>Here are some relevant links:</p>
<p><a href="http://growthmadness.org/2007/02/09/an-unholy-matrimony/" rel="nofollow">http://growthmadness.org/2007/02/09/an-unholy-matrimony/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://growthmadness.org/2007/02/16/population-and-consumption-both-major-players/" rel="nofollow">http://growthmadness.org/2007/02/16/population-and-consumption-both-major-players/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_2274.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_2274.shtml</a></p>
<p><a href="http://growthmadness.wordpress.com/2007/07/13/global-population-reduction-confronting-the-inevitable/" rel="nofollow">http://growthmadness.wordpress.com/2007/07/13/global-population-reduction-confronting-the-inevitable/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.paulchefurka.ca/Population.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.paulchefurka.ca/Population.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.press.uillinois.edu/pre95/0-252-00818-9.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.press.uillinois.edu/pre95/0-252-00818-9.html</a></p>
<p>I think those might shed some light. Any one should dispossess you of one or another aspect of the argument you&#8217;ve adopted (The Catton book should take care of the whole package.) which is popular among progressives with whom I otherwise sympathize, but who have failed, as badly as those on the right, to think through sufficiently the ecological challenges confronting us today.</p>
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		<title>By: burritoboy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[burritoboy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 04:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The issue with focusing on population control is that it&#039;s contributing less to the problem than American consumption. The average American consumes greater than 10x the resources of the 3rd world people having several children that the population growth advocates are trying to limit, and is thus the problem we should focus on first. Doing otherwise is racist.

What scares me the most is the people in 3rd world countries beginning to adopt the American lifestyle.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue with focusing on population control is that it&#8217;s contributing less to the problem than American consumption. The average American consumes greater than 10x the resources of the 3rd world people having several children that the population growth advocates are trying to limit, and is thus the problem we should focus on first. Doing otherwise is racist.</p>
<p>What scares me the most is the people in 3rd world countries beginning to adopt the American lifestyle.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Earl Salmony</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steven Earl Salmony]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 15:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A growing and now pervasive UNWILLINGNESS exists worldwide to do what is necessary to save life as we know it and the integrity of Earth&#039;s body.

 Everywhere we look people in the very best positions to do meaningful things to save the planet we inhabit are lost to this cause, it appears.

This week,  Forbes Magazine indicates in its current list of the 400 Richest People that, for the first time, all the billionaires will not fit on the list of 400.  Apparently 82 billionaires had to be left off the list.  At least to me, it looks as if too many of our &quot;brothers-with billions&quot; are so singlemindedly focused on the accumulation of wealth and power, in feathering their own gigantic nests, frequenting exclusive clubs, flying private jets, sailing yachts and visiting exotic hideaways, that they have forgotten how human life depends upon Earth&#039;s limited resources and frangible ecosystem services for its very existence. 

These &quot;powers that be&quot; have evidently also forgotten what words mean when we say that the Earth is not flat and endless but round, finite and relatively small. One consequence of their widely shared and consensually validated denial of the requirements of practical reality is that the scale and rate of conspicuous per capita consumption is dissipating natural resources much faster than the Earth can restore them for human benefit. So over-the-top is per human resource consumption by a small minority of people in our time that biodiversity is being massively extirpated, the environment irreversibly degraded and humanity potentially endangered. 

Is the fulfillment of the insatiable wishes of unrestrained consumers unexpectedly and perversely tangled up with unbridled big business interests relentlessly pursuing a course of endless economic expansion? Are we fecklessly consuming the very resources needed for our survival? Is humankind being taken for a ride along a primrose path the ends up with our species inadvertently eating itself out of house and home? 

Thanks for your consideration and comments.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A growing and now pervasive UNWILLINGNESS exists worldwide to do what is necessary to save life as we know it and the integrity of Earth&#8217;s body.</p>
<p> Everywhere we look people in the very best positions to do meaningful things to save the planet we inhabit are lost to this cause, it appears.</p>
<p>This week,  Forbes Magazine indicates in its current list of the 400 Richest People that, for the first time, all the billionaires will not fit on the list of 400.  Apparently 82 billionaires had to be left off the list.  At least to me, it looks as if too many of our &#8220;brothers-with billions&#8221; are so singlemindedly focused on the accumulation of wealth and power, in feathering their own gigantic nests, frequenting exclusive clubs, flying private jets, sailing yachts and visiting exotic hideaways, that they have forgotten how human life depends upon Earth&#8217;s limited resources and frangible ecosystem services for its very existence. </p>
<p>These &#8220;powers that be&#8221; have evidently also forgotten what words mean when we say that the Earth is not flat and endless but round, finite and relatively small. One consequence of their widely shared and consensually validated denial of the requirements of practical reality is that the scale and rate of conspicuous per capita consumption is dissipating natural resources much faster than the Earth can restore them for human benefit. So over-the-top is per human resource consumption by a small minority of people in our time that biodiversity is being massively extirpated, the environment irreversibly degraded and humanity potentially endangered. </p>
<p>Is the fulfillment of the insatiable wishes of unrestrained consumers unexpectedly and perversely tangled up with unbridled big business interests relentlessly pursuing a course of endless economic expansion? Are we fecklessly consuming the very resources needed for our survival? Is humankind being taken for a ride along a primrose path the ends up with our species inadvertently eating itself out of house and home? </p>
<p>Thanks for your consideration and comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Salmony</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Salmony]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 17:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi to all,

It is time for a bit of bittersweet humor from one of America&#039;s greatest funny people(at least in my opinion) .  What follows is the opening of letter.


Message from George Carlin:

The paradox of our time in history is that we have taller buildings but shorter tempers, wider
freeways, but narrower viewpoints. We spend more, but have less, we buy more, but enjoy less. We have bigger houses and smaller families, more conveniences, but less time. We have more degrees but less sense, more knowledge, but less judgment, more experts, yet  more problems, more medicine, but less wellness.

We drink too much, smoke too much, spend too
recklessly, laugh too little, drive too fast, get
 too angry, stay up too late, get up too tired, read
too little, watch TV too much, and pray too seldom.

We have multiplied our possessions, but reduced our values. We talk too much, love too seldom, and hate too often.

We&#039;ve learned how to make a living, but not a life.

We&#039;ve added years to life not life to years. We&#039;ve
been all the way to the moon and back, but have
trouble crossing the street to meet a new neighbor.

We conquered outer space but not inner space.

 We&#039;ve done larger things, but not better things.

We&#039;ve cleaned up the air, but polluted the soul.

 We&#039;ve conquered the atom, but not our prejudice. We write more, but learn less. We plan more, but accomplish less. We&#039;ve learned to rush, but not to wait. We build more computers to hold more information, to produce more copies than ever, but we communicate less and less.


These are the times of fast foods and slow digestion, big men and small character, steep
profits and shallow relationships. These are the
days of two incomes but more divorce, fancier
houses, but broken homes. These are days of quick trips, disposable diapers, throwaway morality, one night stands, overweight bodies, and pills that do everything from cheer, to quiet, to kill. It is a time when there is much in the showroom window and nothing in the stockroom. A time when technology can bring this letter to you, and a time when you can
choose either to share this insight, or to just hit
delete.

Remember, spend some time with your loved ones, because they are not going to be around forever.

Remember, say a kind word to someone who looks up to you in awe, because that little person soon will grow up and leave your side. 

Remember, to give a warm hug to the one next to you, because that is the only treasure you can give with your heart and it doesn&#039;t cost a cent.

 Remember, to say, &quot;I love you&quot; to your partner and your loved ones, but most of all mean it. A kiss and an embrace will mend hurt when it comes from deep inside of you. Remember to hold hands and cherish the moment for someday that person will not be there again. Give time to love, give time to speak, and give time to share the precious thoughts in your mind.

Life is not measured by the number of breaths we
take, but by the moments that take our breath away...........................................


&gt; &gt; -George Carlin]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi to all,</p>
<p>It is time for a bit of bittersweet humor from one of America&#8217;s greatest funny people(at least in my opinion) .  What follows is the opening of letter.</p>
<p>Message from George Carlin:</p>
<p>The paradox of our time in history is that we have taller buildings but shorter tempers, wider<br />
freeways, but narrower viewpoints. We spend more, but have less, we buy more, but enjoy less. We have bigger houses and smaller families, more conveniences, but less time. We have more degrees but less sense, more knowledge, but less judgment, more experts, yet  more problems, more medicine, but less wellness.</p>
<p>We drink too much, smoke too much, spend too<br />
recklessly, laugh too little, drive too fast, get<br />
 too angry, stay up too late, get up too tired, read<br />
too little, watch TV too much, and pray too seldom.</p>
<p>We have multiplied our possessions, but reduced our values. We talk too much, love too seldom, and hate too often.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve learned how to make a living, but not a life.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve added years to life not life to years. We&#8217;ve<br />
been all the way to the moon and back, but have<br />
trouble crossing the street to meet a new neighbor.</p>
<p>We conquered outer space but not inner space.</p>
<p> We&#8217;ve done larger things, but not better things.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve cleaned up the air, but polluted the soul.</p>
<p> We&#8217;ve conquered the atom, but not our prejudice. We write more, but learn less. We plan more, but accomplish less. We&#8217;ve learned to rush, but not to wait. We build more computers to hold more information, to produce more copies than ever, but we communicate less and less.</p>
<p>These are the times of fast foods and slow digestion, big men and small character, steep<br />
profits and shallow relationships. These are the<br />
days of two incomes but more divorce, fancier<br />
houses, but broken homes. These are days of quick trips, disposable diapers, throwaway morality, one night stands, overweight bodies, and pills that do everything from cheer, to quiet, to kill. It is a time when there is much in the showroom window and nothing in the stockroom. A time when technology can bring this letter to you, and a time when you can<br />
choose either to share this insight, or to just hit<br />
delete.</p>
<p>Remember, spend some time with your loved ones, because they are not going to be around forever.</p>
<p>Remember, say a kind word to someone who looks up to you in awe, because that little person soon will grow up and leave your side. </p>
<p>Remember, to give a warm hug to the one next to you, because that is the only treasure you can give with your heart and it doesn&#8217;t cost a cent.</p>
<p> Remember, to say, &#8220;I love you&#8221; to your partner and your loved ones, but most of all mean it. A kiss and an embrace will mend hurt when it comes from deep inside of you. Remember to hold hands and cherish the moment for someday that person will not be there again. Give time to love, give time to speak, and give time to share the precious thoughts in your mind.</p>
<p>Life is not measured by the number of breaths we<br />
take, but by the moments that take our breath away&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>&gt; &gt; -George Carlin</p>
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		<title>By: Trinifar</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Trinifar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 22:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent essay, John.  I particularly like the way you tackle the issue head-on:  &lt;i&gt;&quot;That the size and growth of the global population is a root cause of ecological degradation, including climate change, is in fact well known to scientists.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Sure, there is a cost to raising any hotbutton issue, but failure to do so when we know there&#039;s a problem -- especiallly such a fundamental one with such far reaching effects -- is moral failure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent essay, John.  I particularly like the way you tackle the issue head-on:  <i>&#8220;That the size and growth of the global population is a root cause of ecological degradation, including climate change, is in fact well known to scientists.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Sure, there is a cost to raising any hotbutton issue, but failure to do so when we know there&#8217;s a problem &#8212; especiallly such a fundamental one with such far reaching effects &#8212; is moral failure.</p>
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		<title>By: John Feeney</title>
		<link>http://growthmadness.org/2007/09/13/when-environmental-writers-are-part-of-the-problem/#comment-7171</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Feeney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 19:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Are ubiquitous daily decisions to remain silent, and not speak the truth as we see it, not tantamount to becoming co-conspirators with the hiers of Ozymandias....&quot;

This is the way I see it as well.

I would guess such silence reflects a kind of denial, as well, whereby those who refrain from speaking up may understand intellectually the risks involved in our ecological challenge but, in an effort not to face them, still don&#039;t really grasp them in their gut.  If they did really grasp them, after all, it seems hard to believe they would remain silent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Are ubiquitous daily decisions to remain silent, and not speak the truth as we see it, not tantamount to becoming co-conspirators with the hiers of Ozymandias&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is the way I see it as well.</p>
<p>I would guess such silence reflects a kind of denial, as well, whereby those who refrain from speaking up may understand intellectually the risks involved in our ecological challenge but, in an effort not to face them, still don&#8217;t really grasp them in their gut.  If they did really grasp them, after all, it seems hard to believe they would remain silent.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Earl Salmony</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steven Earl Salmony]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 14:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Environmental Writers,

I believe this is one way to begin.  We have to speak of topics that are taboo, just as we do in this community.

My greatest concern is that the undoing of the human species, and life as we know it, could inadvertently occur as  a result of the adamant and relentless maintenance of SILENCE.

Silence is something to be feared. Silence is especially terrifying and potentially ruinous when it is actively employed as a tool for denying good science. 

Are ubiquitous daily decisions to remain silent, and not speak the truth as we see it, not tantamount to becoming co-conspirators with the hiers of Ozymandias, the children of men, the masters of the universe who are pursuing a primrose path toward an unacceptable risk  of  NO-FUTURE  for our children?  

Perhaps the time for us is &quot;now here&quot; lest our children end up no-where.

With thanks to the Earth-keepers,

Steve]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Environmental Writers,</p>
<p>I believe this is one way to begin.  We have to speak of topics that are taboo, just as we do in this community.</p>
<p>My greatest concern is that the undoing of the human species, and life as we know it, could inadvertently occur as  a result of the adamant and relentless maintenance of SILENCE.</p>
<p>Silence is something to be feared. Silence is especially terrifying and potentially ruinous when it is actively employed as a tool for denying good science. </p>
<p>Are ubiquitous daily decisions to remain silent, and not speak the truth as we see it, not tantamount to becoming co-conspirators with the hiers of Ozymandias, the children of men, the masters of the universe who are pursuing a primrose path toward an unacceptable risk  of  NO-FUTURE  for our children?  </p>
<p>Perhaps the time for us is &#8220;now here&#8221; lest our children end up no-where.</p>
<p>With thanks to the Earth-keepers,</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Earl Salmony</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steven Earl Salmony]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 12:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Friends,

Sometimes it looks to me as if some of our brothers and sisters are so singlemindedly focused on the accumulation of wealth and power, in feathering their own gigantic nests, frequenting exclusive clubs, flying private jets, sailing yachts and visiting exotic hideaways, that they have forgotten how human life depends upon Earth&#039;s limited resources and frangible ecosystem services for its very existence. 

The “powers that be” have evidently failed to understand what it means when we say that the Earth is round, finite and has biophysical limits to which the human species is absolutely subjugated. One consequence of this denial of the requirements of practical reality by the masters of the universe among us is that the scale and rate of per capita consumption is dissipating natural resources at an accelerating rate, one that is growing much faster than the Earth can restore them for human benefit. So obviously unsustainable is per human overconsumption by a minority of people in our time that we can observe some of overconsumption&#039;s devastating effects: biodiversity is being extirpated, the environment degraded and humanity itself endangered. 

Is the fulfillment of the insatiable wishes of unrestrained consumers a result of unbridled big business interests relentlessly pursuing a course of endless economic expansion, based upon the feckless consumption of the very limited resources needed for the survival of life as we know it? 

Is the human species literally eating itself out of house and home? 

How do things look to you, environmental writers? 

Thanks for your consideration and comments here.  Letters to  news editors,  social movements and cultural change are also  encouraged.

Sincerely, 

Steve]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Friends,</p>
<p>Sometimes it looks to me as if some of our brothers and sisters are so singlemindedly focused on the accumulation of wealth and power, in feathering their own gigantic nests, frequenting exclusive clubs, flying private jets, sailing yachts and visiting exotic hideaways, that they have forgotten how human life depends upon Earth&#8217;s limited resources and frangible ecosystem services for its very existence. </p>
<p>The “powers that be” have evidently failed to understand what it means when we say that the Earth is round, finite and has biophysical limits to which the human species is absolutely subjugated. One consequence of this denial of the requirements of practical reality by the masters of the universe among us is that the scale and rate of per capita consumption is dissipating natural resources at an accelerating rate, one that is growing much faster than the Earth can restore them for human benefit. So obviously unsustainable is per human overconsumption by a minority of people in our time that we can observe some of overconsumption&#8217;s devastating effects: biodiversity is being extirpated, the environment degraded and humanity itself endangered. </p>
<p>Is the fulfillment of the insatiable wishes of unrestrained consumers a result of unbridled big business interests relentlessly pursuing a course of endless economic expansion, based upon the feckless consumption of the very limited resources needed for the survival of life as we know it? </p>
<p>Is the human species literally eating itself out of house and home? </p>
<p>How do things look to you, environmental writers? </p>
<p>Thanks for your consideration and comments here.  Letters to  news editors,  social movements and cultural change are also  encouraged.</p>
<p>Sincerely, </p>
<p>Steve</p>
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